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  How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

  and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

  i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

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  Bungi Bill

  Rainbow_Troll

  Ttdtt = Teletype-writing device for the deaf?

  You appear to like acronyms, so how's this for one:

  FYJ
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  What are the chances of getting another Raymond Franz default from head office ?

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  all regimes get defectors and some are more vocal than others..

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  Bungi Bill

  I generally agree with what most here have already said.

  Also, it is extremely hard to believe any member of the current Governing Body is of the same calibre of Raymond Franz. In fact, the term "Flim Flam Artist" comes very much to mind!
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  How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

  and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

  i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

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  Bungi Bill

  In answer to the OP's question, I found it necessary to rediscover the person that I had been before the Watchtower madness took hold, then move on from there.

  It helped to reconnect with friends I had had before this happened:

  - persons who actually proved to be surprisingly forgiving and understanding, considering that back then they must have thought that I had taken complete leave of my senses!

  Other than that, to quote a favourite saying of my late mother, it is a case of "making the best of a bad job!"
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  How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

  and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

  i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

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  Bungi Bill

  Rainbow_Troll

  A "Master Artist" and an "MA in medieval history" - no wonder neither of them can get a job!

  But hey, if you would rather regret the past and feel sorry for yourself, go on believing that not going to college ruined your life.

  Stop trying to make it sound like those are the only alternatives. Besides, I see nobody here claiming not going to university "ruined" there lives.

  However, I have lived enough (and experienced enough) to know that turning down the opportunity to do the Bachelor of Engineering course (which a large organisation would have sponsored me through) certainly placed me at a disadvantage. Admittedly, Tertiary Education is not for everyone. But then again, neither is dragging a jackhammer around a construction site for everyone, either!

  Winston Churchill is on record as once remarking "To try is to risk failure. To fail to try is to guarantee it."
  

  Young persons who are inclined to ought to be at least given the chance to try for a university education, rather than be stopped from even trying by seven old f@#ts in New York.
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  How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

  and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

  i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

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  Bungi Bill

  Rainbow_Troll,

  "I don't know a single college graduate who doesn't regret their decision to pursue higher education."
  

  Those were the sort of stories the JWs used to try and frighten the likes of me with when I was a teenager (that one and similar - like "you make more money doing unskilled work", "reading Awake for five years is the same as a university degree" etc). All I can say is what you just described has not been either my experience nor my observation.

  Having worked at all levels (i.e. from a labourer up to Engineering Associate) alongside others who were degree qualified, I am under no illusions what I would be doing if I had my time over again:

  - and that would be to start by entering into a Bachelor Course; as against trying to take it up in middle age or older.

  PS: I do believe you are something of a bloody troll, coming out with remarks like that!
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  Favorite/least favorite CO's and DO's

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i posted this thread sometime last year but thought i would revive it due to the new ones on the board, and to change things up a bit.

  my favorite?

  bro murikami, from hawaii, very humble, kind bro.

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  Bungi Bill

  "Cyclone Rex" Mainwaring:

  - Unpopular? Absolutely, to the point of being loathed.

  - Unforgettable? Too bloody right he was.

  Good or bad, though? Still not sure about that one!
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  What "Rules" Did The Elders In Your KH Make?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some congregations were known as liberal and others were considered very conservative.

  back in the 1970s a nearby congregation made all speakers who gave public talks a white shirt to wear.

  if a speaker came in wearing anything but white they were brought into the library and were given a white shirt!

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  Bungi Bill

  "Brothers" required to wear a jacket (either a sports coat or full suit coat) at all times while engaging in field service - regardless of the weather conditions. Never mind that in this particular "territory", anybody strutting around wearing a jacket in 30 degree-plus temperatures (Celsius) is regarded as stark raving mad!
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  White clean shaven man runs over muslims

  by silentbuddha in

  1. social
  2. current

  so in england they report a "white clean-shaven man" mowed down worshippers at a mosque.

  why do they never make such detailed descriptions when muslims do the same?.

  i hope this event isn't a bad turning point.

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  Bungi Bill

  Ruby456,

  Thanks for that posting that extract.

  Certainly, the more extreme political ideologies are quite capable of producing the "suicide bomber" mentality in their adherents. That was observed amongst the more die-hard Communist fighters during the Malayan Emergency (1948-1960). It was also very much noted during the First Indochina War (1946-1954), in which each Viet Minh unit had a contingent of "Death Volunteers" - Suicide Bombers by today's definition (See Bernard B. Fall's Hell in a Very Small Place- the Siege of Dien Bien Phu). Interestingly, though, this was done under the banner of Communism rather than Fascism.
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  The denial of 1975 when and how did they go about it.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was pretty young in 1975, all i remember was a few complaining at the hall after and those at the door that razed us over it.

  does anyone remember how they went about denying it and when this started.

  i do remember a scripture in psalms about people being mighty and living longer so this was used.

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  Bungi Bill

  For quite a period there was just silence; almost like they hoped if nothing more was said about 1975, then just maybe people would quietly forget the matter. In fact, according to Raymond Franz in Crisis of Conscience, that is what at least one Governing Body member strongly suggested doing.

  Also in that same work, Raymond Franz readily admitted that when an apology was finally made (in 1980 - i.e. five years afterwards), it was a very watered down one!

  Other than that, over the years the WTS/GB has continued to deny the obvious about what they said and wrote in the years leading up to 1975. (One example of many comes to mind at a Circuit Assembly late in 1974. The District Overseer delivered a talk, in which we were cautioned about being "too" dogmatic about this date. However, he then completely undid what he had just said, by the concluding sentence of his talk, in which he loudly stated "But We Still Stand By Our Date of 1975!!!!!" )

  Needless to say, that remark brought a burst of applause from the audience. Bloody fools the lot of us!
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  White clean shaven man runs over muslims

  by silentbuddha in

  1. social
  2. current

  so in england they report a "white clean-shaven man" mowed down worshippers at a mosque.

  why do they never make such detailed descriptions when muslims do the same?.

  i hope this event isn't a bad turning point.

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  Bungi Bill

  ISIS could only be described as "Fascist" in the loosest possible use of that term - i.e. as a general political swear word. Otherwise, ISIS bears very little resemblance to Fascism.

  Professor Roger Griffiths (University of Wales) in his An Intelligent Person's Guide to Fascism, describes the term as being, to quote, "the most misused, and overused, word of our times".